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Why do Christians worship Jesus? He never said, “worship me” nor “I am God” in the Bible, or did he?

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6:44 pm
March 21, 2009


SekihMentis

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Why do Christians worship Jesus? Confused He never said, “worship me” nor “I am God” in the Bible. Or did he? Bored

how can we even expect to hear from God when we don’t even care to listen to what He’s said before.

6:21 pm
March 22, 2009


Jellybean

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But he did say “I am the way the truth and the life.”

There also this scripture:

“I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am” Isaiah 8:58

That refers back to when Moses was before the burning bush and he asked the LORD, Lord what if they ask me who sent me, or ask me your name.  And the LORD said “I am that I am”

Those who knew the scriptures knew exactly what Jesus was saying.


“blah…. blah…….blah… BLAH!”

12:59 am
March 29, 2009


SekihMentis

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thanks! good one jellybean! however, there's no Isaiah 8:58. you mean Isaiah 8:5-8?

i think you're referring to: Exodus 3:14 KJV “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.”

so in John 8:56-59 KJV Jesus used the “I AM” claiming He is the one or God that abraham had faith in:

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.  57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?  58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.  59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

the jews got offended when he said “…, I AM” that's why they wanted to stone Him.

Jesus wouldn't have been crucified if He didn't claim He's God:

30 I and my Father are one.  31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.  32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?  33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 10:30-33 KJV

so Jesus claimed “I AM God” but not in those words. He and his disciples claimed He is God.

1 In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word [Jesus] was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God. 2 He [Jesus] was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him [Jesus] all things were made; without him [Jesus] nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him [Jesus] was life, and that life was the light of men. 5 The light [Jesus] shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. John 1:1-5 NIV

16 So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews persecuted him.  17 Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.”  18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. John 5:16-18 NIV

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.  7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” 9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?  10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.  11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. John 14:6-11 NIV

20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us understanding so that we can know the true God. And now we live in fellowship with the true God because we live in fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ. He is the only true God, and he is eternal life. 1 John 5:20 NLT

how can we even expect to hear from God when we don’t even care to listen to what He’s said before.

6:40 am
March 29, 2009


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Jesus was worshipped when He was still a baby. His disciples and other people worshipped Him. He never rebuked anyone from bowing down to Him or from worshipping Him. Bible why did they worship Him? apparently because He is who He claimed He is – God / the Messiah / Son of Man / Son of God / Son of David / etc.

2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. Matthew 2:2 KJV

11And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh. Matthew 2:11 KJV

1 When he was come down from the mountain, great multitudes followed him. 2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. 3 And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. Matthew 8:1-3 KJV

17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. 18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live. 19 And Jesus arose, and followed him, and so did his disciples. Matthew 9:17-19 KJV

32 And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased. 33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. Matthew 14:32-33 KJV

22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. Matthew 15:22-28 KJV [don't take this passage out of context and think that Jesus was rude or harsh or racist, etc. read more about the contexts here: http://www.fcflife.com/forum/q.....-a-racist/

20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedees children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. 21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. Matthew 20:19-21 KJV

8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. 9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. 10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. Matthew 28:8-10 KJV

16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:16-18 KJV

51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. 52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy: 53 And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen. Luke 24:51-53 KJV

37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. 38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him. 39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. John 9:37-39 KJV


The Father commands the worship of Jesus. Hebrews 1:5-7 KJV [amplified by me] says:

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? [Psalm 2:7 KJV] And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? [2 Samuel 7:14 KJV] 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. [Deuteronomy 32:43 KJV] 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. [Psalm 104:4 KJV]

how can we even expect to hear from God when we don’t even care to listen to what He’s said before.

2:02 am
April 22, 2009


faithlegacy

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yea, he never said worship him.

So, I'm thinking if he had to ask he might as well make us do it.

He never said it because He wanted to give us the choice to.

Since it is our human nature to worship something.

I think He wanted sincere worship and nothing is more sincere then a choosing.

And usually when we humans choose to follow, believe in or worship something we do it because are confident  we have the truth.

ha scary for those who are worshiping the word gods..

it say alot about their ……..Sleephaha cant finish….so sleepyFrownits already 2 am. wowShocked

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