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The Trinity: is it possible that God can be both one and three?
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11:12 pm
March 31, 2009


SekihMentis

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The Trinity: is it possible that God can be both one and three?  No Idea   Question Crazy  Shocked


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how can we even expect to hear from God when we don’t even care to listen to what He’s said before.

8:41 pm
April 6, 2009


SekihMentis

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God is a trinity of persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of personhood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God.

Jesus, the Son, is one person with two natures: Divine and Human. This is called the Hypostatic Union. The Holy Spirit is also divine in nature and is self aware, the third person of the Trinity.

There is, though, an apparent separation of some functions among the members of the Godhead. For example, the Father chooses who will be saved (Eph. 1:4); the Son redeems them (Eph. 1:7); and the Holy Spirit seals them, (Eph. 1:13).

A further point of clarification is that God is not one person, the Father, with Jesus as a creation and the Holy Spirit is a force (Jehovah's Witnesses). Neither is He one person who took three consecutive forms, i.e., the Father, became the Son, who became the Holy Spirit. Nor is God the divine nature of the Son (where Jesus had a human nature perceived as the Son and a divine nature perceived as the Father (Oneness theology). Nor is the Trinity an office held by three separate Gods (Mormonism).

The word “person” is used to describe the three members of the Godhead because the word “person” is appropriate. A person is self aware, can speak, love, hate, say “you,” “yours,” “me,” “mine,” etc. Each of the three persons in the Trinity demonstrate these qualities.
The chart below should help you to see how the doctrine of the Trinity is systematically derived from Scripture. The list is not exhaustive, only illustrative.

The first step is to establish the biblical doctrine that there is only one God. Then, you find that each of the persons is called God, each creates, each was involved in Jesus' resurrection, each indwells, etc. Therefore, God is one, but the one God is in three simultaneous persons. Please note that the idea of a composite unity is not a foreign concept to the Bible; after all, man and wife are said to be one flesh. The idea of a composite unity of persons is spoken of by God in Genesis (Gen. 2:24).

There is only one God

The first step is to establish how many Gods exist: one! Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8; 45:5,14,18,21,22; 46:9; 47:8; John 17:3; 1 Cor. 8:5-6; Gal. 4:8-9

  • “I am the LORD, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God,” (Isaiah 45:5).
  • “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me,” (Isaiah 44:6).
  • “I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God,” (Isaiah 55:5).
The Trinity
  FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT
Called God Phil. 1:2 John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9 Acts 5:3-4
Creator Isaiah 64:8 John 1:3; Col. 1:15-17 Job 33:4, 26:13
Resurrects 1 Thess. 1:10 John 2:19, 10:17 Rom. 8:11
Indwells 2 Cor. 6:16 Col. 1:27 John 14:17
Everywhere 1 Kings 8:27 Matt. 28:20 Psalm 139:7-10
All knowing 1 John 3:20 John 16:30; 21:17 1 Cor. 2:10-11
Sanctifies 1 Thess. 5:23 Heb. 2:11 1 Pet. 1:2
Life giver Gen. 2:7: John 5:21 John 1:3; 5:21 2 Cor. 3:6,8
Fellowship 1 John 1:3 1 Cor. 1:9 2 Cor. 13:14; Phil. 2:1
Eternal Psalm 90:2 Micah 5:1-2 Rom. 8:11; Heb. 9:14
A Will Luke 22:42 Luke 22:42 1 Cor. 12:11
Speaks Matt. 3:17; Luke 9:25 Luke 5:20; 7:48 Acts 8:29; 11:12; 13:2
Love John 3:16 Eph. 5:25 Rom. 15:30
Searches
the heart
Jer. 17:10 Rev. 2:23 1 Cor. 2:10
We belong to John 17:9 John 17:6 . . .
Savior 1 Tim. 1:1; 2:3; 4:10 2 Tim. 1:10; Titus 1:4; 3:6 . . .
We serve Matt. 4:10 Col. 3:24 . . .
Believe in John 14:1 John 14:1 . . .
Gives joy

. . .

John 15:11 John 14:7
Judges John 8:50 John 5:21,30

. . .

Therefore, the doctrine of the Trinity is arrived at by looking at the whole of scripture, not in a single verse. It is the doctrine that there is only one God, not three, and that the one God exists in three persons: Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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how can we even expect to hear from God when we don’t even care to listen to what He’s said before.

4:14 pm
April 7, 2009


Sarek

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Nice! Trininty was always a tough subject for me. One thing I remembered when Pastor Ian was discipling us when it came to trinity is that the math isn't 1+1+1=1. It was infinity+infinity+infinity= infinity.  Because God cannot be contained or be limited to a number.


I know it doesn't explain trinity as you've nicely done, but it was a great rule of thumb for me. lol

2 Timothy 4:3 = Feet firmly planted in mid-air.

2:06 pm
April 15, 2009


Jellybean

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No Idea I think I almost got it.  I've been struggling for years to try to understand this concept.  I'm going to have to read this one more time……..or two or three thoughBible 

 Good job Sekih!!Thumb Up

“blah…. blah…….blah… BLAH!”

2:11 pm
April 15, 2009


Jellybean

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No IdeaOk so let me see if I got this?  can I explain the trinity like a company having three departments.  Having different reponsibilites, yet being part of one organization????Bored


…………….Stressed Out

“blah…. blah…….blah… BLAH!”

9:05 pm
April 16, 2009


SekihMentis

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Post edited 1:14 pm – May 18, 2009 by FCFLife Admin


jellybean! uhm…

check this video out by lee strobel:


and this by ravi zacharias:

how can we even expect to hear from God when we don’t even care to listen to what He’s said before.

3:07 pm
April 17, 2009


Sarek

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Post edited 5:11 pm – April 17, 2009 by Sarek


oops.


2 Timothy 4:3 = Feet firmly planted in mid-air.

1:29 am
April 20, 2009


Jellybean

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Thanks Sekih

OK got it “no simply analogy” to explain the trinity. 

And “3 persons in 1 nature”

“blah…. blah…….blah… BLAH!”

12:59 am
April 22, 2009


faithlegacy

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Yea, just like water…

It can be ice

It can be slushy! haha

It can be all 3 forms…

But not matter what you do its still water.

Build a Legacy of Faith.

11:56 am
April 22, 2009


Jellybean

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……………………………….Bleh

“blah…. blah…….blah… BLAH!”

10:27 pm
April 22, 2009


faithlegacy

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Bored determined to get posts in huh?

Build a Legacy of Faith.

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